Mil/Civil operations.

[DCP]

A recent airprox commented on the lack of standardation between mil & civ procedures. Co-ordination, radar handover, interpretation of RIS/RAS are just some of the areas of difficulty.
Recently I was berated by a military controller for not passing the heading of an aircraft on a RAS. The aircraft was on its own navigation to a defined reporting point!
I was berated because I was not interested in the level of traffic co-ordinated against my VFR track some 12,000ft above!!
I was accused of being "unprofessional" because I did not use the phrase "co-ordination agreed" when co-ordinating traffic with the military.
I was told that agreeing to follow military traffic in a complex high density traffic situation was not co-ordination because we had not agreed levels.
Is it not time we sat around the table and sorted out these differences?

[Yopung]

For me this is a bit déja vu. I seem to remember saying something like that in the 70's. I have been on both sides of the fence Mil/Civil. Frankly, I don't think both sides will ever completely agree over this but it would help if, at least, each side talked to the other and tried to understand what the other side does. That way there will be fewer surprises. Be surprised in conversation if you wish, but don't leave it to when you are trying to do a job to be surprised!

I retired a couple of years ago so may be out of date.